When confronted with the 1,000 deaths a day, Trump admits “they’re dying, that’s true, and it is what it is, but that doesn’t mean we aren’t doing everything we can. It’s under control as much as you can control…” Trump then offered charts that show that dozens of countries have handled the pandemic better than the United States while claiming the charts say the opposite.
The latest interview between HBO Axios National Political Correspondent, Jonathan Swan, and Donald Trump was a disaster for the President almost from the moment it began. The interview covered multiple topics, including the coronavirus crisis, the Black Lives Matter movement, the November election, U.S. Foreign Policy in Afghanistan, China, and Russia; the consensus showed it was a train wreck even by the standards of many of Trump’s staff members.
Trump immediately set the tone of the interview by telling an array of lies about his coronavirus response and the state of the pandemic in the country. Trump blames the “bad governors” while referring to the “good governors,” then he shifts to blaming China, which has less than 84,464 infections and 4,634 deaths compared to the 4.8 million infections of the coronavirus and 158,000 deaths here in the United States. Trump accepts absolutely no responsibility for his and his Administration’s impotent response to the health crisis.
“We want a 5-minute test and are making tens of thousands of tests,” without recognizing that millions of test are required if the United States wants to have an effective weapon to fight the coronavirus. Trump went on to claim that the testing is causing more positive results than if we didn’t test. By some skewed form of rationalization, the President is correct. Another words, what we don’t know can’t hurt us or be used against him. Stop the testing and the numbers will look far more favorable.
Then the President started denying the numbers reported by South Korea and other countries.
One of the most frightening segments of the interview came when Swan asked Trump questions about why he isn’t doing more to fight the coronavirus and why the virus has hit the United States so much harder than other large countries. No matter how Trump tried to lie his way out of the facts, he couldn’t escape the 1,000 deaths a day reality. Trump could only muster, “They are dying. That’s true. It is what it is. ...” It’s under control as much as you can control it.”
On the topic of America’s struggles with coronavirus testing, including long wait times for test results that render testing almost worthless, Trump resorted to making up an answer he could not validate. Again when all else fails, lie. Trump’s master playbook worked for him for 73 years why change now during a world-wide pandemic.
Trump claimed that some “books and manuals say that there can be such a thing as too much testing” but can’t name a single book or manual that says such a thing because it was an outright lie. Health experts universally insist there’s no such thing as too much testing.
The interview then turned to the Russian murder for hire operation in Afghanistan by the Russians. Trump insisted people have called that fake news but couldn’t cite a single source making that claim. Further, Trump denied that the plot was disclosed in his intelligence morning brief(s), which has been confirmed. Trump’s justification for current Russian bounties and arming the Taliban based on the 1978-1981 arming of the Taliban by the United States.
Trump revealed total confusion about the difference between absentee and mail-in voting. He insists that some states have sent millions of mail-in bailouts, but then says absentee ballots are okay because you have to request those ballots ignoring Jonathan Swan’s stating that no universal ballots have been sent.
It should be noted this interview took place before the news became public that President Trump and his some of this businesses are under criminal investigation for tax fraud, wire fraud, bank fraud, and wire fraud by the Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. A grand jury he has convened in New York City.
The President with that disclosure could be indicted by the Manhattan District Attorney even if the President is re-elected since these are state charged. There is only a Justice Department memo saying you can’t indict a sitting President. That opinion, if upheld by the Supreme Court, may not be upheld in the contest of a President being charged criminally by a state court.
The Axios full interview can be found below…